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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11148 |
Handle id #8645 : Chris Huelsbeck
eh, why is he in the database? afaik he wasn't ever involved in the scene at all ?! |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11148 |
my point is that NOT everyone belongs here so he can be credited. hubbard belongs here with no doubt, because he was active in the scene (just like ben daglish, and JT and a lot of other musicians) :)
as for chris i'm convinced now that he was involved in some scene production, so fine :) (i wonder though how i should find these in between the gazillion production which credits him for the ripped tunes)
and no steppe we didnt drop the topic. the unrelated commercial stuff must be whiped (and will be).
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5031 |
I just love our trigger happy moderators. once you have extra rights you just ought to use it, right ? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11148 |
if you have to contribute something to the thread, do it. if not, don't. save yourself the energy of spilling random blubber into the forum, the damned nazi moderators will only delete it. |
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Trazan
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 620 |
Having stupid entries about Ku Klux Klan or such in a thread isnt really needed Oswald, no wonder I removed it.
...and what Groepaz said! |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
What Trazan said. I think Groepaz's considerations are valid. I don't think we will start a big cleaning now. Only keep in mind when adding/editing entries if it belongs to the C64 Scene Database and if someone finds potential stuff not belonging there is always chance to discuss here. |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
Ok, point taken Groepaz, and on the whole I agree, sure. I honestly thought we were done with the topic of, let me call it "bystander scener entries". Maybe there's a way to flag them as such, I don't know. |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
The possibility to flag entries as "non-sceners" would be useful. Martin Galway f.ex. was never part of the scene, still I'd hate it to see him removed from CSDb. There are a bunch more of people like this, especially musicians... I personally think they have to stay here for several reasons, one of them being the possibility to give complete credits for releases with ripped music. |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 838 |
Down to it all, any release featuring certain musical scores needs to show proof of the author who composed it, and even though that Chris was not much of a scener according to groepaz, his profile (or at least his handle) needs to be here to show the proof.
I quite agree with Zyron's idea as well. Maybe that could be a new feature? |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1630 |
I agree with Steppe/Zyron/crd. Such a flag would be useful. Another possibility would be to have a flag indicating whether the [something] that someone is credited for, in relation to a specific release, was intended for this specific release or not.
This would capture ripped music. It would ALSO capture cases such as loaders. If one looks at Krill's page here on CSDb for example, I think it looks a bit weird being credited in so many productions on an equal basis with true participating in the development of this production, and is hard to "navigate" in a sense close to the case with musicians being credited zillions of times for the same thing.
Dunno... Just a thought. On the other hand I guess that there are many cases where it is impossible to know, since it is so long ago and much info is lost, whether some piece of music really was intended for this or that production and so on. So, in the end I guess that's a bad idea. :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11148 |
flagging such entries somehow sounds good to me, and also what frantic says, i dont like the credits for loaders a lot either =P
however, i don't agree with "they must stay so we can give proper credits". ultimativly that would mean that everyone who ever did something commercially for the c64 has to be added, because at some point a scener ripped his music/sprites/charset/gfx/whatever. |
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